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Chris' Theory of Human History
Approximately every 2500 years, mankind kills itself. I will go ahead and say that people survive, because the race has continued, but the destruction is to such a point that everything that was built up over that 2500 year period is essentially lost. Humanity repeats history, but it also builds upon the previous history.

This is why we have (at least as far as we think) achieved such great technology in our time. We have built upon all that has come before us. But around the beginning of the Christian calendar, humanity was in its infancy.

I have several reasons for coming up with this theory.....

*Do you ever what happened to cause the halt of such great civilizations as the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans?
*Modern man has not managed to even remotely equal any of the ancient wonders.
*The arrogance of a given epoch is such that we assume those who came before us were technologically inferior. How can we ever know that the ancient Egyptians were in fact beyond us in capability? Because we have no proof? There is likewise no proof that they built the pyramids with chisels.
*It was around 2500 BC that the Egyptian empire was at its height.
*It was around centered around 0 AD (give or take 250 years either way) that the height of the Greeks and the Roman Empire were reached.

Part of the reason I started wondering was, for whatever reason, yesterday driving home I started wondering what a computer would seem like to a person from 300 years ago. Like, what did they go home and do for fun?

Then I guess I thought, well, how do we know that such technology was not only achieved but far surpassed by those who came before us? The real innovation has only occurred within the last 200 years or so....as far as we know.

Do you ever wonder why the Pyramids were built? What if that society was so far advanced that they had exhausted their needs, and turned to things like monuments to express their civilizations? If, for lack of a better word, they were art?

It is the arrogance of today's humanity that we think we have gone above and beyond anything that has ever happened before.
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shycomputerguy From: shycomputerguy Date: December 19th, 2001 02:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
Our mighty sky scrapers, our bridges and canals and dams, the computer, planes, space ships, all of these are 20th century "wonders." I think we have not only met but surpassed the ancient wonders. Sure, we don't have pyramids all over the place, unless you count the one downtown, or huge hanging gardens but our wonders are just as amazing. Our wonders we just see everyday and use them in our lifes so they are taken for granted.

I have watched shows on Discovery and the learning channel where they take a group of scientists and historians and use the tools that they had back in ancient times and recreate what they did, like building the pryamids, on a smaller scale of course, and they did it. Now why haven't we built more pryamids or any of the other wonders? One, well, we no longer have thousands upon thousands of slaves to do the work for free. A true sign of how "civilized" these people were. And two most of these are monuments. I wonder if your theory is right if after our civilization is gone if the next group of humans would see the statue of liberty, mount rushmore, the effiel tower, the biggest ball of twine in minnesota as our wonders.

I am not saying what the ancients did was not great. But being able to communicate instantly with a person half way across the world, being able to get any where in the world in hours by plane, being able to walk on the moon or have a space station, or replace a person's heart with a man made one, these are true wonders.
suffocated From: suffocated Date: December 19th, 2001 03:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Dude, you're missing the point. Just because what we think happened can be reproduced does not make that the only way it could have been done. I have read other things that the most modern machinery simply cannot replicate some of the accuracy seen in the pyramids. I agree that what we have produced and enabled is amazing, but it doesn't defeat the question of whether or not the same things were in existence 5000 years ago, or even before.

Of course, what I'm proposing kinda flies in the face of everything that is accepted about things, such as the Pyramids being giant tombs, but hey I was never one for conventional thinking.
From: teamxtreme0003 Date: December 23rd, 2001 04:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

pyramids as art?

I do somewhat see what you are talking about. What you didn't include with the pyramid part was the hieroglyphics. Do you suppose the stories told are just that; Stories? Fairy tales of ancent times, perhaps. I just want to see if I'm the only one..heh.
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