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Something thats been floating around in my head for a little bit....

Most suicides seem to be of the selfish variety. That is, the inspiration for them usually falls along the lines of "I can't take it anymore" or "My life sucks and I want to die."

I'm wondering, do people ever off themselves not because of their own lives, but because of the rest of the world? Like, "This world is so terrible I just can't stand to stay in it anymore". Not motivated by selfish pity reasons.

It might not be much of a line, but its there.
5 pity screws or Do me
xabigailx From: xabigailx Date: January 11th, 2002 06:28 am (UTC) (Link)
The world in general is a shitty place. But if one were to kill themselves based just on that, it's nothing but a cop out. A persons world is what they make of it. If your world is that fucking bad, do something to change it!! Everyone has the ability to do this... problem is, most people are too fucking lazy to bother. That's just my humble half awake opinion though...
suffocated From: suffocated Date: January 11th, 2002 10:45 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't think I explained it well enough. What I mean is, seeing how terrible people are to each other. True, my own little world is nothing horrific. "Your world is what you make of it" does not apply here, because I am talking exclusively about the external world, things that do not directly affect you but still come under your scrutiny.
xabigailx From: xabigailx Date: January 11th, 2002 01:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ok, so you mean the world "in general". I get ya. Let me put it this way... At my office, I have to talk to hundreds of people a day who are homeless, abused, addicted and various other problems. On Saturdays and Sundays, I am forced to tell homeless people that there are no social workers available on the weekends to help them, and that yes, they will have to stay outside in the freezing cold until normal business hours. So, the world I come into contact with sometimes looks pretty horrific, but somehow I still manage to not "off" myself.
From: memoriam Date: January 12th, 2002 04:58 am (UTC) (Link)
I don't think a person could possibly unselfishly commit suicide. Perhaps he doesn't think things in the world are fair, and becomes depressed over seeing bad things happen to other people... but would he kill himself because of concern for the other people, or because of the pain *he* feels over it? The only way it would be unselfish is if the only ones who benefited were the ones left behind. So, perhaps, you could say that he was causing a burden to all around him, and then he decides to kill himself. Is it really because he wants to make their lives better, or because of the hurt he feels from being a burden?
From: memoriam Date: January 12th, 2002 09:51 pm (UTC) (Link)


I guess the answer to this could also depend on what you consider selfishness. I wonder, if someone really did feel pain due to being so empathic to the feelings of others around him and couldn't take it and decided to kill himself, would you consider that unselfishness? Is that what you meant when you asked this question?

In my mind, the unselfish act would be to go on and do whatever possible to make the lives of others better, to make the world better in any way and suffer through it although it is painful. The selfish act would be to kill oneself and end one's own pain from the observation of it.

Could there be exceptions to this? Something I'm not seeing, perhaps?

Two posts to the same entry before anyone else responded to me... I think I might be a nerd.
5 pity screws or Do me